#1184 – Rob Reiner, Ray McGinnis



#1183 – Dave Ratcliffe, Col. Prouty


  • Col. Prouty’s 107th birth anniversary on 24 January
  • Dave recalls how he met with Col. L. Fletcher Prouty through John Judge
  • Dave’s website: www.ratical.org
  • FREE Online EbookThe Secret Team by Col. L. Fletcher Prouty (1973)
  • FREE Online Ebook: (html version) Understanding Special Operations, And Their Impact on Vietnam War Era
    1989 Interview with L. Fletcher Prouty, Colonel USAF (Retired) by David Ratcliffe (1999)
  • How the secret team infiltrated various US govt agencies
  • Downloadable Video: Why Col. Prouty never had to sign a CIA oath of secrecy clearance
  • The Collected Works of Col. Prouty CD-ROM available for direct download here for just $30
  • Part B: Col. Fletcher Prouty with Sean Mackenzie; beginning at 45:30
  • The following is from a 1992 interview at the National Press Club
  • CIA involvement in the deaths of RFK and Martin Luther King?
  • Nobody could answer those questions honestly
  • The significant involvement is the suppression of normal court procedures
  • The power that can keep the State of Texas from carrying out the law
  • Wagoner Carr, J. Edgar Hoover, the Warren Commission
  • Fletcher travelled to another country to talk with a person
  • This person was eight or 10 inches behind Bobby Kennedy
  • A gun went off in this person’s right ear
  • Castro, Khrushchev, the Mafia, they don’t control Texas
  • Is the Rockefeller organization really the black hats?
  • Old John D., sent scientists to Geneva, oil was organic matter
  • (Congrès de nomenclature Chimique de Genève, 1892)
  • (Geneva Nomenclature Congress of 1892)
  • This sort of proved that oil was in short supply, with intrinsic value
  • The breakdown of Standard Oil (May 15, 1911) was paper work
  • The amount of money they control, they’re gonna have a say
  • Beef cattle, dairy, the Rockefellers have the American Breeders Service
  • Milk production, 10,000 quarts, up to 40,000
  • Oil did not come from the decomposition of formerly living matter
  • An ingredient of the Earth just like, rock or water
  • Rockefeller money moved in to Japan to rebuild the economy
  • The Rockefellers pull strings, make plans, control things
  • Why come forward with this confirmation?
  • High Treason: (Livingstone / Groden / Prouty 1989)
    The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy : What Really Happened
  • A discussion with Livingston about Kennedy’s Vietnam commitment of 16,000
  • NSAM 263 was to build down, NSAM 273 was to build up
  • Fletcher’s candor versus others who have kept their mouth shut
  • If one doesn’t choose to write about what he did …
  • A lot of what Fletcher did was to correct things he read
  • The Secret Team and the Games They Play, The Washington Monthly (05/1970)
  • The Secret Team: (Prouty 1973)
    The CIA and Its Allies in Control of the United States and the World
  • Fletcher considered the book an autobiography
  • Philip Agee probably went to Switzerland with a ticket bought by CIA
  • Ellsberg, Les Gelb, the Pentagon Papers, pro-Agency
  • The CIA and Decision-Making (Cooper 01/1972), pure propaganda
  • Laurence Oliphant (1829-1888), Turkey, British Society of Psychical Research
  • Fletcher taught at Yale, Skull and Bones, George HW Bush, Bill Buckley
  • ONI is itself, not Navy really, the most powerful intelligence organization
  • OSS was under the JCS, not Intelligence, operational
  • Truman felt Intelligence was not coordinated, he abolished OSS
  • They preserved OPC, agents you just can’t cut off, under Frank Wisner
  • 1947 National Security ActDepartment of DefenseNational Security Council
  • CIA, the only operational word – coordination, not collection
  • Walter Bedell Smith, Moscow Ambassador, made head of CIA
  • The Dulles–Jackson–Correa Report, January 1, 1949
  • The brothers Dulles and the World Council of Churches
  • The brothers Dulles and Sullivan and Cromwell
  • Enormous business contacts in pre-war Germany
  • In 1944, Fletcher flew to Syria to pick up 750 Allied prisoners of war
  • There were German and Romanian Nazis with them, escorted by Frank Wisner
  • That was the first act of the Cold War, against our Russian ally
  • Iron Curtain, Count Lutz Schwerin von Krosigk speech (05/03/45)
  • Winston Churchill “The Sinews of Peace” speech, Fulton, Missouri (03/05/46)
  • Most writers write truth, it’s the machine that won’t take the truth
  • Smith, Wisner, Dulles, ignored the law, made CIA into an operational organization
  • Fletcher spent 10 interesting years in the banking business
  • American Bankers Association’s Committee on Automation Planning and Technology
  • Banks hold a leadership role in American society and this world
  • NSC knows you made that call and who you called
  • A word they don’t understand – illegal
  • NSA listens, they don’t ‘know’, they record, they sort it out later by desire
  • The Stanford Research Institute (SRI), ran the Energy Crisis
  • Center for Strategic and International Studies, the propaganda work
  • Fletcher does not find MJ-12 (Majestic 12) credible, the material doesn’t stand up
  • Report from Iron Mountain: On the Possibility and Desirability of Peace (Lewin 1967)
  • It’s a novel, he made it up, well that’s what he says
  • The statements he has in it, I heard in the Pentagon almost daily
  • The substance is true, he didn’t want to have to explain who was involved
  • Leonard Lewin on his book, New York Times Book Review, March 19, 1972
  • Operation Zapata: (Aguilar 1981)
    The “Ultrasensitive” Report and Testimony of the Board of Inquiry on the Bay of Pigs
  • A report written by General Maxwell Taylor to President Kennedy
  • The Cuba Study Group met down the hall from my office
  • The Iron Mountain subject matter is incomparable
  • If you have a way of getting rid of people, you at least have got to preserve the 144,000
  • Part : Col. Fletcher Prouty with Sean Mackenzie; beginning at 1:45:00
  • Discusses the law firm that hired him to review L Ron Hubbard military records
  • Part D: Malcomn Blunt beginning at 1:52:36
  • Imagine 2 people assigned from Pentagon to help the ARRB
  • Just like George Joaninndies assigned to help the HSCA
  • Watch Video Here


#1182 – Col. Fletcher Prouty


  • The censorship exercised by the newspaper editors
  • The advantages of hemp
  • Tungsten mining in Vietnam
  • The garden of eden in the world was Southeast Asia
  • Saigon was called the Paris of the Orient
  • It was mindless to destroy a beautiful place like Vietnam
  • Most likely one of the reasons for the Vietnam war was to get American businesses to replace the French
  • Is petroleum a fossil fuel?
  • Generally, no fossils are found below 16,000 feet
  • The oil depletion allowance
  • Video: President Kennedy calls out the steel companies (1962)
  • “It has long been a Kennedy tradition: not to get mad but to get even. I fully realize that
    I shall not be able to get even during my first term in office. But during my second term,
    you are going to see some important changes” – President Kennedy
  • Why was Governor Connally in the same car as the President?
  • Lansdale and Col. Prouty knew each other since 1952
  • Lansdale was sent to the Philippines in 1952 to overthrow President Elpidio Quirino
  • And replace him with the new President Ramon Magsaysay
  • Col. Napoleon Valeriano trained Cuban exiles before the bay of pigs invasion
  • Valeriano became an American citizen
  • A million Vietnamese migrated from the North to the South before the war
  • The US Navy transported 660,000 Vietnamese from the North to the South
  • 330,000 were moved by CIA’s airline Civil Air Transport (CAT)
  • On September 2, 1953, Secretary of State John Foster Dulles said “In Indochina, a desperate
    struggle is in its eighth year….We are already contributing largely in matériel and money to the
    combined efforts of the French and of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.”
  • Chiang Kai-Shek’s presence at the Tehran conference
  • Article from Parade Magazine, Feb 1986:
    Why Stalin Never Forgave Eleanor Roosevelt by Elliott Roosevelt: Page 1Page 2
  • The cold war really began before the second world war ended
  • Our governments do not know how to operate without the threat of war
  • FREE Borrowable EbookReport from Iron Mountain by Leonard C. Lewin
  • New York Times Book Review: Report from Iron Mountain: The Guest Word by Leonard Lewin
  • The degradation of the infrastructure in the US


#1181 – Morris Wolff, Jim DiEugenio


  • Jim DiEugenio and Len Osanic interview Morris Wolff
  • Book: Lucky Conversations: Visits With the Most Prominent People of the 20th Century by Morris Wolff
  • Morris had the oppportunity to talk to JFK, RFK, Teddy Kennedy, Adlai Stevenson and others
  • Arlen Specter was the best man at Morris’s wedding
  • “Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less traveled by,
    And that has made all the difference” – Robert Frost
  • www.aiesec.org
  • Morris also met and spoke to Kwame Nkrumah and Patrice Lumumba
  • How Morris got to meet John Kennedy
  • Morris helped write the Civil Rights Act of 1964
  • How Morris got in touch with Robert Kennedy
  • Morris’s encounters with John Sherman Cooper, Richard Russell and Lyndon Johnson
  • Book: JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass by Jim DiEugenio: HardcoverKindle
  • JFK Revisited: The Complete Collection Blu-Ray + DVD
  • Rent/buy JFK Revisited: Through the Looking GlassShowtimePrimeiTunesVuduMicrosoft
  • Rent/buy the documentary series JFK: Destiny BetrayedAmazon PrimeiTunesVudu
  • Morris’s conversation with Jackie Kennedy
  • Morris attended the I Have A Dream speech with John Lewis
  • When Morris met with Malcolm X
  • Book: The Bill of the Century: The Epic Battle for the Civil Rights Act by Clay Risen:
  • Book: Whatever Happened To Raoul Wallenberg by Morris Wolff: PaperbackKindle
  • Morris’s lawsuit against the Soviet Union
  • Morris also met with Eleanor Roosevelt and the former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan


#1180 – Mark de Valk



#1179 – Vicky Adams, Oliver Stone, Jim DiEugenio


#1178 – Libby Handros, John Kirby, Jim DiEugenio



#1177 – Johnny Cairns



#1176 – John Armstrong


  • Book: Harvey and Lee (2003) (.pdf) by John Armstrong
  • John’s website: www.harveyandlee.net
  • Articles: The Pre-Arranged Murder of J.D. Tippit by John Armstrong: Part 1Part 2Part 3Part 4Part 5
  • The multiple sightings of Oswald in two different locations at the same time
  • When did the impersonation of Oswald begin?
  • The two wallets of Oswald
  • Captain William Westbrook and Sgt. Kenneth Croy
  • Did Oswald speak Russian or not?
  • Did Marina Oswald speak English?
  • What could the CIA be hiding that’s more important than Oswald’s identity?
  • Kennedy had the right idea about getting rid of the CIA


#1175 – Jim DiEugenio, Paul Bleau