#1323 – Pat Valentino, Chris LeMay

  • Pat Valentio Jr. (Sept 20th – Aug 2nd 2026)
  • Interview from Pat’s home in Sept 2012
  • Pat, a long time JFK researcher is a music arranger, Chris writes the BOR show notes
  • Pat’s interest began the day of the assassination, and with the murder of Oswald
  • Oswald was tried by the WC with no defense, Rush To Judgment (Lane 1966)
  • The evidence and testimony did not gel with the Commission’s report
  • Inquest (Epstein 1966), Pat tape recorded Mark Lane being interviewed on the radio in LA
  • Six Seconds in Dallas (Thompson 1976), Pat taped a debate with Lane and Louis Nizer
  • Pat knew and worked with Donald Freed and Steve Soter
  • Steve and Pat interviewed a chef at a restaurant frequented by JFK and Jack Ruby
  • The War Conspiracy (Scott 1972), Executive Action (Freed/Trumbo 1973)
  • Pat did a lot of taping off the TV, before the availability of video recording
  • 9/11, the Bush Administration dodged valid questions and concerns
  • 1993/94 Pat met regularly with Gary Aguilar at his home
  • Pat has given presentations of his JFK recording archive
  • BOR provides new research revelations and a historical perspective
  • Convoluted arguments by WC defenders, Robert Oswald in Lifton’s new book
  • Best Evidence (Lifton 1981), was ready to go to press, then came the HSCA releases
  • In 1975, Pat’s sister was dating David Lifton, David had a lot of rare books
  • David asked Pat to attend a lecture by Fred Newcomb, the body alteration theory
  • David read Sibert and O’Neill, “surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of the skull”
  • He showed it to professor and Warren Commission counsel Wesley Leibler
  • Leibler wrote a memo and sent it to many people in Washington
  • Katzenbach dismissed it saying, “Bobby Kennedy would have done something”
  • David questioned Allen Dulles at a UCLA lecture re: back and to the left
  • Patricia Lambert cooperated with, then fell out with David and Pat
  • Jim Garrison may have been gun shy, he was courageous
  • Patricia was a dedicated participant with David Lifton
  • Gary Aguilar on C-SPAN with Max Holland, re: Jim Garrison and Clay Shaw
  • Hal Lieberman, Harry Livingstone, Donald Freed, monthly meetings, William Turner
  • The 1993 ASK conference, Norman Mailer
  • David on his own and with Pat recorded many interviews with witnesses
  • 1983, David a set of FBI Agent Fox’s autopsy photos, Pat invited David to Dallas
  • They interviewed several Parkland doctors, first, anesthesiologist Marion Jenkins
  • He was a Kennedy hater, shown the photos, he was noncommittal
  • Jenkins claimed he felt an unseen shoulder wound, but only 17 years later to the HSCA
  • Dr. Peters, Dr. Jones, Peters says, “Oh no…it’s occipital parietal“
  • Dr. Kemp Clark, though reluctant to talk to researchers, called David
  • In his office, Clark didn’t look at the photos, so he wouldn’t have to go record
  • 1989, Pat and David filmed extensive interviews, including John Newman
  • Pat has the original draft of Newman’s JFK and Vietnam (1992)
  • Fletcher Prouty and John Newman, Oswald and the CIA (Newman 1995)
  • It’s the intelligence community, not a lone Marxist, deeper then the CIA, like ONI
  • John Kennedy handled the Bay of Pigs, finessed the Missile Crisis, greatest capacity for learning
  • He had the greatest capacity for learning, and the willingness to learn
  • Johnson, Nixon, Dealey Plaza compared to entering Oz, Nixon was assassinated by Watergate
  • Nixon’s criminality, paranoia, red-baiting, Helen Gahagan Douglas
  • The Hiss and Rosenberg cases, typewritten materials precede the typewriter manufacture
  • Hoover and Roy Cohn, 9/11, Dealey Plaza II, Building 7, Silverstein, “pull it”
  • A tremendous breakdown in security, George Tenet and David Boren, a pilot’s license
  • Hijackers in Las Vegas, a hubbub that disappeared, believers wouldn’t be visiting strippers
  • The Warren Commission did not invent suppressing documents for years, there was precedent
  • Richard Case Nagell, Mort Sahl, Garrison subpoenas denied by Governors
  • Garrison’s war service, this was not the country he fought for
  • Pat followed the Kennedy candidacy and his administration, the Best Evidence
  • Lifton’s work, body alteration is bizarre, then you hear the Bethesda witnesses
  • Jerrol Custer observing Jackie entering the lobby after x-raying JFK
  • Events in and surrounding Bethesda, Gerry Spence and Paul O’Connor in London (1986)
  • The helicopter lifting off from the right side of Air Force One, you can hear it
  • That casket does not have John Kennedy’s body, Lifton’s approach to evidence
  • Two sets of doctors, two lenses, the potential of interviewing David Lifton

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